Talk:Flag of South Africa

Old Flag

Isn't it illegal to fly the old flag, not just offensive? Joziboy 12:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

No. It may be poor taste but it is definitely not illegal. That would be a violation of the right to freedom of expression. Some venues and organisers of public events, such as SA Rugby and its afilliates, have rules refusing entry to the old flag to their properties, but that is a private matter and does not involve the state. Roger 09:22, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes it is. It has been ruled as hate speech. https://www.moneyweb.co.za/news-fast-news/public-display-of-old-sa-flag-is-hate-speech-rules-sca/ Venusdurbino (talk) 10:50, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

I keep editing the removal of the old flag as the main heading of the article, as when you type it on Google; it displays the old flag as the current flag on Google. User:Venusdurbino or @Venusdurbino (Vanessa Swanepoel - Project Manager - Overstrand Unite | LinkedIn) seems to deem it vital to fly the old flag. Google, "South African flag" and see if it displays the correct one. Is there any way to report this to Wikipedia or get the user cited for continually positing that South Africa is still affiliated with the apartheid flag, which has been deemed illegal (the old apartheid flag). I checked the edit history; it clearly shows what they/she have been doing this multiple times. I believe that I have encountered an individual displaying the old South African flag in a manner that could be considered hate speech or harassment, or it's being used in a way that contravenes the Equality Court's ruling, I will be filing a report it to the following entities:

I have documented the incident, noting the date, time, location, and context in which the old flag is being displayed. Photographic and metadata evidence have been issued with a formal complaint to the equity commission. In the interim, can we get someone to edit the old flag out of the main heading of the article? 165.73.70.248 (talk) 15:49, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

I was trying to get rid of it??? Definitely don't want it flying anywhere. It is another user. Venusdurbino (talk) 23:29, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Construction sheets

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  Ninane's sheet
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  Warrior Of Light's sheet

Government Notice #510 gives the following specifications on the flag of South Africa:

The National Flag shall be rectangular in the proportion of two in the width to three in the length; per pall from the hoist, the upper band chili red and the lower band blue, with a black triangle at the hoist, over the partition lines a green pall one fifth the width of the flag, fimbriated white against the chili red and blue, and gold against the black triangle at the hoist; the width of the pall and its fimbriations is one third the width of the flag.

The construction sheet added by Dodger67 is consistent with this (other than that the law does not specify the diagonal arms of the pall should be parallel to the diagonals of the flag field). All vertex coordinates can be geometrically derived from this sheet; while I haven't done that, it's highly unlikely they are all rational numbers as Warrior Of Light's/Tohaomg's file implies. SiBr₄ (talk) 11:28, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Note that the legally-effective specification of the flag design is that in Schedule 1 of the Constitution:

1. The national flag is rectangular; it is one and a half times longer than it is wide.
2. It is black, gold, green, white, chilli red and blue.
3. It has a green Y-shaped band that is one fifth as wide as the flag. The centre lines of the band start in the top and bottom corners next to the flag post, converge in the centre of the flag, and continue horizontally to the middle of the free edge.
4. The green band is edged, above and below in white, and towards the flag post end, in gold. Each edging is one fifteenth as wide as the flag.
5. The triangle next to the flag post is black.
6. The upper horizontal band is chilli red and the lower horizontal band is blue. These bands are each one third as wide as the flag.

I can also confirm that the numbers in File:South Africa flag construction sheet.png are rounded figures, since I had to calculate them in the past to draw up File:Diagram of the Flag of South Africa.svg and many involve the square root of 13. - htonl (talk) 13:22, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

I would add that both construction diagrams are accurate, they are simply depicting different things; one shows the specification of the flag, while the other shows the result of reducing that specification to x-y coordinates. Personally I am inclined towards using the former. - htonl (talk) 13:28, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Having calculated the actual vertex positions, the numbers in Warrior of Light's sheet, while not exact, are actually pretty good approximations, as all coordinates differ less than 0.15 units from integers with a flag height of 300. I wouldn't oppose it being re-added to the article if it is made clear it shows approximated coordinates rather than officially specified ones. SiBr₄ (talk) 14:24, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Flag of South Africa (1928–1994) AFD

Flag of South Africa (1928–1994) has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Flag of South Africa (1928–1994), with the intended result that any new comment be merged to this article. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 19:24, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Copyright note on inclusion of text from Bruce Berry

Anthere has incorporated substantial text received by email from Bruce Berry, and noted such in the edit summaries (see diffs between Special:Diff/713672067/715886407). As an OTRS agent, I confirm that Ticket:2016032210006686 archives his license of that text under the Creative Commons-Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International license. Storkk (talk) 12:32, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Now also under cc-by-sa-3.0. Storkk (talk) 08:52, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Notice of South Africa Red Ensign AfD

A new page related to this article, South Africa Red Ensign, has been nominated via AfD. Ibadibam (talk) 17:59, 7 September 2016 (UTC)