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John Whitby Allen

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Lack of citations, notability Euclid316 (talk) 21:05, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lorgius

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Tagged uncited for years and I could not find much in Google Scolar Chidgk1 (talk) 17:15, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. People venerated as saints by major churches are clearly notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:11, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This pre-Vatican martyr never came through a formal Canonization process. All the the sources about him are literally a word or two. I’m not even sure if he really existed. There’s no evidence of a cultus. Bearian (talk) 10:02, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- It's quite probable he didn't exist, but that's not unusual for early Christian saints, few of whom ever went through a formal canonisation process. It's whether he's venerated that's significant, and he clearly is, even if not that commonly. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:13, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - Lorgius (Lorgio in Italian, or "San Lorgio" which works as a search term for him) is certainly a venerated saint, with churches named after him. Multiple sources exist supporting this. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:01, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Giorgakis Olympios Museum of Vlach Folklore

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As I had written at Talk:Giorgakis Olympios Museum of Vlach Folklore#Notability, I doubt this museum is all too relevant. Serres is outside the traditional homeland of the Aromanians (also known as Vlachs) centered in the Pindus, and also quite far from it. Having read much about the Aromanians, Serres has never appeared to be a center of Aromanian cultural activities in Greece like for example Veria in modern days. The sources talking about this museum seem to be all in Greek, of which I speak nothing, so native speakers of Greek could be more useful in determining the topic's notability. Meanwhile, here's what I've found:

In Google Books, I've found passing mentions of the parent cultural association of the museum [1] [2] [3]. That's it basically. The museum isn't mentioned either in this exhaustive book on the Aromanians by renowed author Asterios I. Koukoudis [4]. In Vlahoi.net, probably the greatest website about the Aromanians in Greece, there is some more information on the association, and the museum is only made passing mentions [5]. In this book hosted on the website, there's some very limited information on the museum: that it was established in 2008, the several sections it has and its objectives [6]. In Google Scholar I've tried a couple word combinations and haven't been able to find anything at all about the museum, and some passing mentions of the parent association. I have tried to find information on the museum on Aromanian websites and magazines, and I haven't been able to find anything, not even mentions of the association, though because I don't speak Aromanian either it is possible something may have slipped, but I doubt it'd be anything big. Finally it is, expectedly, with a regular Google search that I find the most information, but it's all from touristic or government and regional websites [7] [8]. Passing mentions are also to be found in local media, which in theory is reliable [9] [10] [11] [12], but again these articles don't contain much info. Also this museum does not have an entry at museumsofmacedonia.gr, not sure if it is an authoritative source but we have the article Sarakatsani Folklore Museum completely based on this website.

This article was created by a user with only 13 edits, all of them on this page [13]. The museum does not have an article in Greek Wikipedia, it only also does in Bulgarian Wikipedia, which has many low-quality articles on the Aromanians of questionable notability (just click on some biographies here [14] if you're wondering why do I say this). The Giorgakis Olympios Association of Vlachs of Serres, the parent association of this museum, is one of over a hundred of Aromanian associations in Greece which arent individually notable but which are grouped into the Panhellenic Federation of Cultural Associations of Vlachs, so any notable info on the museum could simply be covered in the article about the federation if truly necessary (proof for the association's membership in the federation: [15]). Serres#Places of interest and #Culture or Aromanians in Greece could also cover the few rescuable information that there could be. I see there's few coverage to be found on the museum in reliable sources and that it is hardly notable. The current sources on the article are unreliable, one is the page of the parent association and another is a government touristic website. Super Ψ Dro 15:10, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to ask for the judgement, if it's okay by them, of users Khirurg and Cplakidas. Surely they will have an easier time navigating through Greek sources and I'd appreciate having their opinion as a non-Greek speaker, though they can feel free to ignore this ping if they're not interested or don't have the time. Super Ψ Dro 15:10, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the heads-up, Super Dromaeosaurus. The museum is indeed outside the traditional area of Vlach settlement, but the association seems to be active and fairly large, and has some info as to how Vlachs spread to the region as the result of merchant activities in the 18th, and Ottoman persecutions in the early 19th century. The museum also appears to be a substantial building. In Google, the Greek name comes up a lot in small news items, but of the 'Sights in Serres' or 'Politician visits Museum' type. Frankly, the museum doesn't appear very notable per WP:GNG, as is the case for many smaller museums. Generally I am not a fan of deletions, but in this case I think just mentioning it in the article on Serres would be enough, as we barely have enough content for a stub either way. Constantine ✍ 15:46, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Geoffrey Freire Marreco

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This seems like a case of someone 'inheriting' notability from their family. A WP:BEFORE search mostly revealed ancestry.com-type links. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 20:39, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Parkour Civilization

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This article is about an insignificant passing internet meme that, like many others, fails the general notability guidelines. Every source in use here is from a tabloid, borderline unreliable source (save for Rolling Stone) that talks about a brief internet trend rather the series itself. To go into specifics, Daily Dot and Dexerto are tabloids that should be used with caution and cannot demonstrate notability per WP:RSP, IMBD is user-generated content and is unreliable as a result per WP:IMBD, and Times Now is an undiscussed source, but due to WP:NEWSORGINDIA it doesn't look good. And even if these sources were reliable, they are mostly just showcasing social media posts and don't actually hold any critical commentary. The show also fails WP:SUSTAINED, since every source was published in a short time frame, and nothing new has been written about the subject since as found by my WP:BEFORE searches. λ NegativeMP1 20:33, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, per well argued nom. There appears to be a dearth of WP:INDEPTH WP:RELIABLE sources on the topic of the article (and not a tangentially related meme [which also doesn't pass the bar of WP:N]). Only the Rolling Stone article meets all the criteria that are needed to contribute to WP:GNG, and we can't hang an article on one source. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 20:44, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Naoki Mihara

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When the claim to notability is playing 316 minutes in Japan's second league, as well as 3 times in a lower US league, the situation is pretty dire and the sources are nowhere near good enough to meet WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. No help in ja:wiki. Creator is blocked indefinitely. Geschichte (talk) 19:27, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lee Hyun-min

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Played 10 times (probably not full games) in the K League 15 years ago. It would take very convincing sources for him to pass WP:SPORTCRIT or WP:GNG. Creator's talk page is absolutely plastered with non-notable Korean footballers. Geschichte (talk) 19:25, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kodai Nagashima

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Footballer who played a grand total of 10 minutes in Japan's third league. Though he also played in amateur leagues and presently in Cambodia, it would take some convincing sources for him to pass WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Ja:wiki only provides primary sources. Geschichte (talk) 19:22, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Noriki Fuke

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Footballer who played a grand total of 401 minutes before retiring from the game. References are not independent and significant, with a possible exception here, which builds on a press conference, and describes the player before entering the league, i.e. when he hadn't done anything noteworthy. I believe it falls short of WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Geschichte (talk) 19:20, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of convex regular-faced polyhedra

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The list may seem to be redundant, consisted of convex polyhedron's classes in the following: we have five Platonic solids list, we have Archimedean solid and Catalan solid's list, and we have Johnson solids list. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 00:43, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Quite obviously it meets WP:NLIST (see e.g. [16], [17], [18]) and the fact that we have articles on subsets of these objects does not mean it is 'redundant', no more than a list of countries is redundant by the fact we have articles on the individual countries.--cyclopia ^speak! 16:24, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cyclopia If that's the case, how to rearrange the table in an encyclopediac way? The list apparently does not mention the background of how can convex polyhedrons be defined, rather adds a table by marking each of the cells whether they have such specific properties. If the article lists all of the types of solids, then the list describing the specific solids may also be redundant to create. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 08:47, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete probably. This is essentially redundant to List of Johnson solids, which is better. The only main difference is that this one also includes the regular and uniform polyhedra (including extra entries for specific cases of prisms and antiprisms), which as the other list notes, are sometimes excluded from being called "Johnson solids". Having a whole separate article just to address a difference in naming convention seems unneeded. Maybe there's a better solution here, but this list isn't it. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 14:04, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- That seems like a better argument for either Merge or Redirect than delete. McYeee (talk) 22:03, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to an appropriate article. It’s great information, but not covered in any significant way. Can we rescue this table? Bearian (talk) 18:22, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The fact there are infinitely many convex polyhedron, so adding more in this table is pretty useless and damaging audience computer. There are too many charateristics on specific detail whether they are belonging to this class polyhedron or not, and the table is completely unfinished yet. Pyramids and bipyramids has infinitely many. Prisms and antiprisms has infinitely many. Platonic has five. Archimedean and Catalan solids has thirteen. Johnson solids has ninety-two. Deltahedron has eight. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 01:56, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as a poor replica of List of Johnson solids. If the cross-reference information with, say, Archimedean solid needs to be preserved, a column "Also part of" can be added to the table. --Викидим (talk) 07:17, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Johnson solids: of which this is essentially a lower-quality duplicate. Owen× ☎ 16:36, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you kidding me? Johnson solids are part of convex polyhedron! Really??!! Dedhert.Jr (talk) 17:04, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Johnson solids are indeed a proper subset of convex polyhedra. Specifically, they are the subset of convex polyhedra that are regular-faced, which is what this list is. By definition, there is no convex regular-faced polyhedron that isn't a Johnson solid, making the two sets identical. Owen× ☎ 18:13, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Technically, some (not all!) authors prefer to explicitly exclude the Platonic solids and Archimedean solids from the Johnson set, see [19]. This distinction is already covered in the Johnson solids. There are also infinite sets (say, prisms) that are naturally excluded from any such list. That said, I agree with OwenX. --Викидим (talk) 20:22, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of radio stations in Turkey

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As this has been tagged uncited for many years is it any use keeping? Chidgk1 (talk) 17:10, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Does the Turkish broadcast regulator publish an official list of radio stations or transmitters? Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 18:45, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Radio and Television Supreme Council - I have not found one yet Chidgk1 (talk) 15:26, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NLIST. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 11:51, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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History of the Jews in Botswana

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Extremely small minority with little significance, nearly half the article is about Botswana's relations with Israel because of how little coverage there is of the 21 members of this community. If this qualifies as notable you could make thousands of X ethnicity in Y country articles. Gazingo (talk) 15:18, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep There could be 10 people or 5 people in this community and it wouldn't matter as long as reliable sources existed. The current size of the community is irrelevant. Jewish communities are almost always small in most countries. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 12:48, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The only sources in the article are Jewish websites with articles for "Jews in X country" for every country. Are there any sources about Botswana Jews specifically outside of the context of listing facts about the Jewish communities in every country? Gazingo (talk) 15:13, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There's a notable incident that isn't currently covered that seems worthwhile on my WP:BEFORE search.^[1] Andre🚐 23:13, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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History of the Jews in Cambodia

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Extremely small minority with little coverage, the article is largely about individual people in Cambodia who are Jewish with little suggestion of an actual community. If this is notable you could make thousands of articles about every ethnic group in every country. Gazingo (talk) 15:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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DELETE Agree with nominator. This is just a list of facts and a few people. As it is now, there isn't anything to indicate that there IS any history of Jews in Cambodia, i.e. no community per se.--FeralOink (talk) 12:26, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:SYNTH ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:05, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I can't find any history of Jews in Cambodia. It seems that Jews in Cambodia is a modern-times Chabad thing and not a historical diaspora community. Andre🚐 23:17, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and move to Jews in Cambodia. We have Buddhism in Saudi Arabia, Catholic Church in the Maldives and Islam in Nicaragua, surely we can accommodate Jews in Cambodia. Srnec (talk) 01:45, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That does seem a little WP:OSE to me. If I thought that suitable sources existed about Cambodian Jews I'd change my !vote. Andre🚐 07:21, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here and here and here. Not every article has to be long. This is and will remain for the forseeable future a short article. That's fine. My main disagreement with the moderator is that "Jews" in the title are an ethnic group rather than a religious one. My point about other stuff is that it is pretty standard to have "world religion by country"-type articles, but there is no category corresponding to world religion for ethnic groups. I might support merging this article with History of the Jews in Laos into History of the Jews in Mainland Southeast Asia (or History of the Jews in Indochina) and having sections pointing to the more substantial main articles for Myanmar, Thailand, Vietnam and Malaysia (per WP:SUMMARYSTYLE). What I oppose is outright deletion. Srnec (talk) 15:22, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The second source seems the most reliable to me and it directly states there isn't a Cambodian Jewish history and the Chabad mostly serves tourists. The first source seems to contradict this , but I'm inclined to doubt the reliability of a source that can't spell expatriate compared to an academic publication. Third third source is about an individual (who may or may not be notable), not a community. Gazingo (talk) 21:17, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
JVL was made unreliable WP:RSP but I wouldn't really mind using it for something like this, but it also basically says the Cambodian Jewish population is practically nonexistent, was 0.1% before Pol Pot and he went after religious minorities, and is just a Chabad in Phnom Penh. I agree, the 2nd source looks reliable, but literally says Cambodia does not have a “Jewish history”. The 3rd is about an interesting individual but is hardly Jewish history. The other stuff mentioned in the article - History of the Jews in Thailand, History of the Jews in Myanmar, absolutely should remain, but the redlink suggested for a merge target doesn't exist currently. I'm not opposed to a merge if a suitable target could be found. Andre🚐 04:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Simon Kero

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I really sympathise with the topic of the article, but there is no coverage about him beyond him being stranded in Juba, which is mentioned in one source (not even crossing into WP:BLP1E territory). Nothing to meet WP:N or WP:SINGER at all! FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:08, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep United Nations Mission in South Sudan thought he is notable enough to make a video about him for International Day of Peace 2020 - see https://media.un.org/avlibrary/en/asset/d255/d2558965. Dorsetonian (talk) 19:29, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
see WP:SINGER for criteria for notability for singers,e.g., Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself". Your link does not establish any of that. FuzzyMagma (talk) 20:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hamidreza Sadri

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Fails notability, I'm not sure if he is notable enough. he only participated in World senior championships and lost in the first round. his only achievement is in Asian Junior level which is probably not good enough. not much coverage about him too. Sports2021 (talk) 16:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi there,

You would search (hamidreza sadri athlete) on google. We have two famous hamidreza sadri by the same name in Iran. And both have Wikipedia in Farsiwiki AmirX0213 (talk) 19:08, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi there,

You would search (hamidreza sadri athlete) on google. We have two famous hamidreza sadri by the same name in Iran. And both have Wikipedia in Farsiwiki AmirX0213 (talk) 19:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He won the gold medal in the world military championships 2018 Brazil AmirX0213 (talk) 11:20, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Reporting of results does not constitute significant independent coverage, nor do links to databases. That's especially true when the World Taekwondo link in the article is to an Olympic medalist and world champion fighter from Korea named Jun Jang. Youth events and military championships have never been accepted as showing WP notability in the martial arts. His only appearance at a major event as an adult was at the 2022 World Championships where he lost his first match in the round of 64 (and received a world ranking of 153rd). He was ranked 148th in Olympic qualifying for the Paris Olympics. Papaursa (talk) 23:20, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That link fixed which conneced wrong to that fighter, anyway I translated this article from farsi Wikipedia AmirX0213 (talk) 07:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Delete not notable. Lekkha Moun (talk) 06:33, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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E certificate

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Stub that is already covered WP:WITHIN British Board of Film Classification. Only has two references, both of which are primary, and coverage on Google Books, Google Scholar, and JSTOR is limited to very brief mentions within broader discussions of the BBFC; little more than WP:TRIVIALMENTIONs. Some of the content here could be merged to British Board of Film Classification, but most of the content of this article is already covered there, much more concisely. Has no more WP:SIGCOV than the U-15 ratings. Masskito (talk)

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Music composition and composers in Pristina

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I usually hesitate to nominate disorganized articles filled with information for deletion, hoping there’s something salvageable and not wanting to undermine the effort someone has spent hours or days creating. However, this article appears to function as a kind of WP:COATRACK and contains a lot of poorly written material, along with what I suspect is a significant amount of original research. It seems to have been written about a decade ago by a contributor involved in the "Wiki Academy Kosovo II City Marathon," who may not have adhered to best practices and instead focused on cramming in content.

The article should be divided into multiple standalone ones. I suggest extracting a list of notable subjects—individuals, events, compositions, etc...—both those with existing articles and those without, for further expansion and improvement. I would be happy to take on some of these, and others can be included in any relevant Wikiprojects. The Music of Kosovo and Classical music in Kosovo articles can be enhanced with any quality material from this article, but I don’t believe a topic specifically on "Musical compositions and composers in Pristina" is really warranted. Mooonswimmer 16:59, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify. Most of the material is unsalvageable, and these topics should not be covered in one article, but some of the musicians profiled in the "Composers in Pristina" look notable and could have spinoff articles. Mach61 03:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Glen Beicker Ranch Airport

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NBUILD due to a lack of coverage in WP:SECONDARY sources excluding WP:ROTM mentions in aviation-related government and navigational databases. Carguychris (talk) 16:11, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hester Kaplan

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Most of the sources are to faculty pages and other profiles. The source from The New York Times is a wedding announcement and the bulk of the text of the article is about her parents and grandparents. A Google search for material about her turned up little to support a claim of notability, other than items like this one that are not the in-depth coverage required to meet the standard. Alansohn (talk) 18:55, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kelly Jean Van Dyke

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This is classic oneevent territory for an otherwise not individually notable person. Needs more, Spartaz ^Humbug! 18:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Fails WP:ENTERTAINER. Very sad life. The only mention in her father Jerry Van Dyke's page, is about her substance abuse and death. — Maile (talk) 19:16, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect to Jerry Van Dyke#Personal life, per WP:ATD. A brief mention could be made in that section that she also appeared in My Mother the Car and Accidental Family. None of her appearances sustain notability for a separate article, however. Even the headline for the article reporting her suicide refers to "Actor Jerry Van Dyke's Daughter". BD2412 T 20:56, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Manmohan (judge)

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Similar rationale to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Navin Chawla (judge), there's little coverage that would suggest that they pass WP:GNG other than routine coverage of their appointment and cases that they have judged. Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:11, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Order of precedence in Northern Ireland

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This appears to be WP:OR, on the basis that several substantial changes have happened since 1992, such as the Good Friday Agreement, and no official updates have been made. It is impossible to say if the House of Lords (Hereditary Peers) Bill will remove people from the list completely or remove a let people stay on the list... The topic seems to be esoteric, and unlikely to be of encyclopedic value. SqrtLog (talk) 17:48, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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National Assembly for Wales (Representation of the People) Order 2007

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There are no secondary sources on the for this page. There are no secondary sources on the specific subject of this page, as far as I can see. There is a page on Legislative Competence Order, which I think would provide a good redirect destination. SqrtLog (talk) 17:22, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tim Sheehy (businessman)

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This is actually a second AFD. The outcome of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Sheehy (American politician) was a strong consensus to redirect, with two "delete"s and no "keep"s. This new article was created as a redirect to the same target [20], on the grounds that in the Timothy Sheehy disambiguation page he's "not a politician yet". Another editor came along a week later and recreated the last article from that new redirect. A Google search for him, minus the word "Senate", turns up no significant coverate in reliable sources as a businessman or a soldier. The US is now three weeks away from a national election, and all of the major candidates are getting heavy press coverage. db-repost was declined, and the declining admin took a straw poll of editors from the last AFD at Talk:Tim Sheehy (businessman), and all have upheld the last consensus so far. So this article should be deleted, as it's really a renamed repost of Tim Sheehy (American politician). If Sheehy wins, then that article should obviously be un-redirected and expanded. Wikishovel (talk) 13:12, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify Sheehy does not have sufficient notability as a political candidate and businessman; Sheehy has never held public office. Should Sheehy win, we can make the draft an article. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 17:29, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not voting on this AfD but this does make far more sense, to throw my own two cents in here, since he does have potential to become notable very soon. Don't delete the draft with such a high probability of him being elected within the next 3 weeks and 2 days. EytanMelech (talk) 02:37, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Wikishovel. Sheehy is not independently notable from Bridger Aerospace, nor does he pass WP:NPOL just by being a candidate for political office. Keep the redirect to the 2024 Senate campaign. If he ends up winning in November, we can re-assess notability then. Bkissin (talk) 17:31, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Restore redirect to 2024 United States Senate election in Montana Obvious and open consensus rounding, especially with a different article title, is unacceptable. Nate • (chatter) 21:51, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Restore redirect >>> 2024 United States Senate election in Montana. Djflem (talk) 07:04, 14 October 2024 (UTC)~~[reply]

Keep.

There are likely thousands of undecided voters in Montana who don't know much about Sheehy, so they'll be coming on Wikipedia to look up information on him. Why would we disenfranchise them by deleting his page???

This is not like Delaware's senate race where it won't matter. This is a major senate race where almost every outlet says Sheehy is favored. It would seem that by deleting this page and denying valuable information to voters, it means you're seeking to help his opponent win. I had no idea Wikipedia was a partisan site seeking to help one candidate win by making the other seem less serious, but here we see i suppose? 2601:CF:0:9A0:B227:9473:F80D:C5D5 (talk) 02:55, 15 October 2024 (UTC) — 2601:CF:0:9A0:B227:9473:F80D:C5D5 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 2601:CF:0:9A0:B227:9473:F80D:C5D5 (UTC).[reply]

Please see WP:ITSIMPORTANT. Wikishovel (talk) 07:56, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - He is a candidate for US Senate from Montana. Putting aside my belief that this even in itself merits an article creation, he has additionally been covered in a lot of sources, both local and national and even international. [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] Zlad! (talk) 03:18, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KEEP

Tim Sheehy is a major party candidate in a Senate race with major national attention. This race has received millions in spending on advertising, and voters in Montana deserve easy access to basic information on the candidates running in their race. It should also be noted that in an extremely contentious and likely close election, Tim Sheehy is the most likely of any Senate candidate to flip a seat. There are pages for far less notable figures who stood no chance of winning. There seems to be no reason to delete his page except for partisanship.Is — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scooter3 (talk • contribs)

I'm not American, and the outcome of this election means nothing to me, so partisanship (and an anonymous poster above accused me of the same) is not the problem here. As for pages about less notable people, please see WP:WHATABOUTX. Wikishovel (talk) 11:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep He is ahead in the polls, and is pretty likely to be Montana's next senator. Why delete? Im a democrat myself, and I think that thousands of undecided voters will look at both pages. Wikipedia shouldnt be biased, especially in a major tossup election. Lukt64 (talk) 03:57, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:ITSIMPORTANT. It's true that he's ahead in the polls, and if he does win, then as I said in my nomination at the top, Tim Sheehy (American politician) should be unredirected and expanded. Wikishovel (talk) 07:56, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and restore the redirect. I have absolutely no idea why this was restored, as people notable for just being candidates have no presumptive notability. SportingFlyer T·C 04:02, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are a number of keep !votes above and below which say he should have his page kept because he's a candidate. He wasn't notable before, the page was only restored because he's a candidate, and we deal with enduring notability. There are plenty of candidates from all over the world who failed to win the election and ten years later would not deserve a page. I think that's the case here. If he wins, then we can restore it, otherwise redirect to the election or possibly his company. SportingFlyer T·C 18:44, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I've always believed being a major party nominee for federal office should be noteworthy enough to have an article. AvRand (talk) 07:22, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, but the consensus at WP:NPOL from a far higher number of editors than you and I decided otherwise. Wikishovel (talk) 07:56, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NPOL states: Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the general notability guideline.. Djflem (talk) 07:21, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep As the creator of the page (as well as a Democrat living in Montana), I believe that he is, without question, notable enough for Wikipedia, even if he loses. If he wins, I would probably be in favor of moving the page to Tim Sheehy (American politician) or a new page titled Tim Sheehy (senator). If he loses, I still believe he's notable enough for a Wikipedia page because he founded Bridger Aerospace and was a former Navy SEAL. MontanaMako (talk) 15:00, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:NOTINHERITED: articles about heads of notable companies regularly get redirected, if they're not notable independently of the company. Not meeting guidelines for notability still applies, even if notability is claimed for three separate things. Wikishovel (talk) 11:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep His aerospace company has a Wikipedia article because it's notable, and he has had numerous articles written about him as a candidate in one of the two most important Senate races of 2024 (Montana and Ohio, since West Virginia is guaranteed to flip after Manchin left). Bill Williams 20:47, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:NOTINHERITED: articles about heads of notable companies regularly get redirected, if they're not notable independently of the company. Wikishovel (talk) 11:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - In Nevada, the Republican nominee, Sam Brown, has his own wikipedia page. It was created when he first ran for Senate in 2022. Before then, he never ran for office, he was only a military captain. Tim Sheehy is the same thing - He has never held office before and was just a navy seal and CEO of a company. However, being a nominee of what is probably the most important Senate race this year, he deserves an article to inform interested Americans more about him. 2600:1017:B8BC:A39A:4D4F:D187:2698:4225 (talk) 00:12, 16 October 2024 (UTC) — 2600:1017:B8BC:A39A:4D4F:D187:2698:4225 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Please see WP:WHATABOUTX and WP:ITSUSEFUL. If Sam Brown is judged to fail Wikipedia's guidelines for notability, then that article should also be nominated for deletion. Wikishovel (talk) 11:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep based on coverage that he received prior to filing for candidacy. Calwatch (talk) 21:31, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Calwatch: can you provide some examples please? In a search for his name, excluding the word "Senate", the coverage in reliable sources is quite poor. Wikishovel (talk) 22:01, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A search earch with navy seal, Bridger Aerospace, Mudlsingers, Afghanistan, or any of a number of combinations will provide many many hits and articles about Sheehy, so whats the purpose of the suggestion? Djflem (talk) 06:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The purpose is to find "coverage that he received prior to filing for candidacy", as User:Calwatch suggests. I couldn't find much, and that's ostensibly what this article is about, Tim Sheehy the businessman. A redirect to Bridger Aerospace would be fine by me, unless of course he wins the election. Wikishovel (talk) 07:29, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect >>> Bridger Aerospace, the company he founded.Djflem (talk) 06:38, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Non-elected status is not an exclusionary measure, consensus is that candidates are not presumed notability, not that they are presumed non-notable. There are many exceptions and this may be one of them. Djflem (talk) 07:05, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep this guy is a candidate for the Senate in a race that could determine which party controls the Senate. He is all over the news and definitely notable. CipherSleuth (talk) 16:41, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, but not because "he's important" or "he's in a race". He's been covered extensively by the WaPo ([26] [27] [28] [29] [30]) and the NYT ([31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36]). He's been getting significant press coverage since last year, despite the nomination statement implying that the coverage is less relevant due to the final weeks of the election. SWinxy (talk) 23:14, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per SWinxy, same rationale should be applied to Eric Hovde Microplastic Consumer (talk) 20:09, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Compound of tesseract and 16-cell

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Subject is not notable. None of the references appear to actually reference the topic, and searching for more doesn't seem to bring up anything under this name. The first is a massive self-published list of compounds of various types. It may appear somewhere within this - although searching for the relevant terms and reading through the sections of 4D compounds did not find it for me - however regardless it is clearly not a WP:RS. The second appears to be a scholarly article, but it doesn't appear mention the topic, it is referenced for the vertex coordinates of the constituent components. The final two sources are pages on the constituent components separately. The external links appear to be the only places where this component is mentioned outside of this Wikipedia article, but they are self-published and extremely brief. Even reading the article it is unclear what is supposed notable about this compound. AquitaneHungerForce (talk) 13:03, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delist Unsourced and mostly original research, I suppose. Neither Google Books, Google Scholar, nor JSTOR ever talk about this object. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 11:27, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This appears to be, at best, a recreational mathematics topic that a few geometry enthusiasts have played with. I can't find any indications that someone has managed to wring so much as a single paper out of it. XOR'easter (talk) 18:16, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No evidence of notability. Tito Omburo (talk) 19:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete in the absence of sources that cover this specific polytope-dual compound in independent depth, above and beyond coverage of polytope-dual compounds more generally. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:30, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Reunions (Philippine TV series)

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Declined at WP:AFC moved to main space regardless, fails WP:GNG Theroadislong (talk) 16:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Purvesh Sarnaik

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The subject is a non-notable person, failing both WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Holding the position of working president of Yuva Sena (youth wing of a specific unit in Maharashtra state) and serving as a municipal corporator do not, on their own, establish sufficient notability. Additionally, the subject has not made significant contributions to the film industry and thus fails to meet WP:PRODUCER. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 16:40, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Stein

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He is a professor not a dean or vice chancellor at any University or hasn’t received any national or international prestigious award. fails,WP:NPROF. Mainly reference used are of university self or publication sites, lack of independent reliable sources to establish notability, fails WP:GNG. TheSlumPanda (talk) 16:36, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is inaccurate. Michael Stein is incoming Dean of the Boston University School of Public Health (https://www.bu.edu/sph/news/articles/2024/michael-stein-appointed-interim-dean-of-school-of-public-health/)

Regarding notability: he has appeared on Peabody award-winning radio (https://freshairarchive.org/guests/michael-stein), has had his books reviewed in the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/09/books/09masl.html), and is a prolific researcher with >450 peer-reviewed publications. He is also the author of 14 books, which constitutes a "well-known [...] collective body of work [that] have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews". [[37]] Deciderization (talk) 18:00, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gareth Swift

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Non-notable RL player. Only coverage I could find is regarding his untimely death, which isn't enough for an article per WP:ONEEVENT and WP:NOTMEMORIAL. J Mo 101 (talk) 16:25, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ana Coimbra

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We have here a good example of WP:BLP1E, a person whose purported notability is tied to a single event, i.e. a single beauty pageant event. There are three sources which are difficult to evaluate as a non-Portuguese reader; however, they note a) the pageant win and b) a copule of appearances at charity events in support of the pageant, including a (possibly public??) breast exam. This is way too thin to support the general notability guideline, and there are no SNGs that could apply here. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:02, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Annual passenger earnings details of railway stations in Kerala

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This is just a copy of published railway statistics (as shown in the references). There is no explanation or context provided, just a bunch of huge tables. WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:NOTSTATS should apply.

I think this information would be better in individual stations' articles. NS-Merni (talk) 15:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Barangay 79

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Fails WP:GNG; all 4 references are census data. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Tony Valente (politician)

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WP:BLP of a suburban municipal councillor, not properly referenced as passing WP:NPOL #2. As always, city councillors are not all "inherently" notable just because they exist, and must show credible reasons why they should be seen as special cases of significantly greater notability than the norm for city councillors (nationalized prominence, unusual depth and volume of coverage well beyond the norm, etc.) — but apart from one primary source that isn't support for notability at all, this is otherwise referenced entirely to run of the mill coverage in the city's weekly hyperlocal community newspaper, of the type that every city councillor in every city can always show, and does not demonstrate a credible reason why he would be more special than any of his colleagues who don't have articles. The only attempt at "impact of his work on the council" shown here is that he served on community committees, which is not at all unusual for a city councillor, and there's absolutely no documentation of any specific accomplishments on those committees to establish the long-term significance of his participation. Bearcat (talk) 15:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sam Chandola

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WP:BLP of a tech entrepreneur cum political candidate, not properly sourced as meeting inclusion criteria for tech entrepreneurs or political candidates. This was created in August, so it was clearly intended as a campaign brochure for his electoral candidacy -- but candidates do not get Wikipedia articles just for being candidates, and must demonstrate that they already had preexisting notability for other reasons.
But his "career background" as a tech entrepreneur is referenced entirely to primary sources that are not support for notability, but for one article in a suburban community hyperlocal that isn't enough to vault him over GNG all by itself -- and otherwise what's left for reliable sourcing is just the bog-standard run of the mill "party selects candidate" stuff that every candidate for every party in every electoral district can always show, not evincing any reason why his candidacy would qualify as a special case of more enduring significance than all the other candidates who failed to win the election yesterday.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable without better sourcing than this. Bearcat (talk) 15:31, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Akali Sahib Singh Kaladhari

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Unreferenced, so not clear how notable this individual is. The article is so poorly written, it's a wonder it passed review. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 15:24, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of wars involving North Korea

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I absolutely think that a page about wars involving Korea should exist. However, I don't believe a separate page is necessary. All wars involving pre-1945 Korea as well as North and South Korea are already included on List of wars involving Korea. I believe that is sufficient. This also has precedent e.g. East and West Germany don't have separate pages for their wars, and neither do North and South Vietnam or North and South Yemen.

I also find it a bit odd to include wars involving historical states on the territory of current-day North Korea here, as North Korea isn't a direct successor those states - both North and South Korea succeed the Korean Empire and Korea as a territory under Japanese occupation. When excluding those pre-modern wars, the list shrinks down quite a lot, making this page an unnecessary fork. Cortador (talk) 14:57, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adding to this: depending on the outcome of this AfD, I'll nominate List of wars involving South Korea as well. However, this the arguments for and against that will pretty much be the same as the ones here, I didn't want to split the debate, and just nominated this page for now. Cortador (talk) 14:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dave Potter (politician)

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Mayor of a small town of 3000 people. Most sources are primary, the overwhelming majority being government sources. Fails WP:NPOL. AusLondonder (talk) 15:16, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Mayors are not all "inherently" notable just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass WP:NPOL #2 on third-party coverage about them and their work in politics in reliable sources. But as noted by the nominator, this is footnoted mainly to primary sources that are not support for notability, and what little there is for WP:GNG-worthy reliable sourcing is just the run of the mill local coverage in the local media that every mayor of everywhere can always show, sufficient neither in volume nor depth to get him over NPOL #2. One of the media hits was just about him attending a community squid fry event, which is hardly the stuff of permanent notability for a mayor in and of itself. Bearcat (talk) 16:01, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect (or selective merge) >>> List of mayors of Carmel-by-the-Sea, California as best ATD. Djflem (talk) 16:20, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2023 Nicosia Israeli embassy bombing

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The reason I'm requesting this article be deleted is:

As far as a bombing on the embassy, the embassy wasn't bombed and the explosive went off 30 meters away and nowhere near the embassy
According to the sources themselves (Times of Israel and AP), Cyprus Police never stated that the target was the embassy building thus implying as such is Original Research
From my research no charges or at least no convictions have come out from this event and as such we don't actually know what the motives were nor what the outcome of this investigation was.
Im assuming that due to the event not picking up any traction except from the day it was reported, there was likely a lot of sensationalization from media organisations due to Cyprus and Israel's relationship and the timing of it, happening less than a few weeks after October 7th.ShovelandSpade (talk) 14:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Our Lady of Fatima College (Port Harcourt)

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Just one single source. No other source to proof notability. 7G🍁 (🪓) 14:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Stanislav Moravec

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I can prove Moravec exists/existed because he has/had four appearances for Slovakia national football team and currently works as a manager, neither of which is considered free pass. Regarding secondary sources, the best I found is Gulf Times. Corresponding Wikipedia articles in other languages don't provide significant coverage of him.

Please note that this birth name is common in the Czechoslovak scene, so it's possible to find namesakes such as a kid footballer, which I can't prove whether or not he is related to the former footballer. This article has existed for 16 years without any decent source, and a redirect to List of Slovakia international footballers might be an alternative to deletion.

⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I am not sure I trust this nomination, I am certainly struggling to find sources, but it's an interesting career it seems, I am sure there must be some sources to help improve the article. Govvy (talk) 14:03, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nirmalya Ghosh

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WP:BLP, identified as possible WP:UPE, about a scientist not clearly shown as passing inclusion criteria. This was started in the creator's personal sandbox, going through two rounds of needing to have categories removed from it on WP:USERNOCAT grounds, before the creator (a WP:SPA with no prior edit history apart from this article) tried to move it to a "user" profile, following which it was moved to draftspace by an established editor on the grounds that no user account existed under the username Nirmalya Ghosh -- but then the creator moved it directly to mainspace themselves, following which there's been a full edit war over redraftifying and remainspacing it.
Paid editors, however, are required to use the WP:AFC process so that their articles can be reviewed for compliance with Wikipedia's content rules -- but given the fact that there's already been an edit war over what namespace it was located in, I don't see the point in just moving it back to draftspace again without discussion. Obviously if consensus does land on moving it back to draftspace, it should be move-protected to prevent further edit-warring, but obviously consensus may also just lean toward straight deletion. Bearcat (talk) 12:56, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Idelfonso da Silva

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NFT has him listed both under this name and "Afonso Carson", a matter which caused confusion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Afonso Carson. In any case, this is a footballer that has played only 68 mins of international football and with no apparent significant coverage at all. I have searched under "Idelfonso da Silva" and "Afonso Carson" and can find no sign of WP:SPORTBASIC being met. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:33, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 13:20, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feli Ferraro

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Was previously soft-deleted after an AfD in May, and it appears all the same issues discussed there still apply. Both the nominator and sole voter in that AfD called for deletion, and I'd be surprised if anyone would've countered it had there been more participation. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:06, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Hello! I started this page a while back and have continued working on this page. I did not chime in when the page was previously put up for deletion as I wholeheartedly agreed with the reasoning for deletion: the only mention of the subject not from a publishing body she was signed to/managed by was in passing in one article (that has since been removed as it was from a pseudo-blog owned by the label who released the song it discussed), and while she has continued to craft hits of all sizes (she is a songwriter), there were no awards at the time to further prove notability. However, much has changed since the deletion, as Q3 2023-2024 has been a banner season for her career:

(1) A Billboard magazine article ([38]) discussing an elite writing camp her publishing company put together (of 11 members) that has since appeared on virtually every K-pop album that has broken through in the United States market (nicknamed "the Hit Factory"). Not only does she appear in the cover photo and additional photos, but the article mentions her past and present placements as well as a few mentions of personal life.

(2) A songwriting award (win) from BMI - arguably the largest songwriting/publishing governance organization, as the song she co-wrote was ranked in the top 20 of pop songs in the past year based on radio airplay, club play, live performances, and TV commercial placements.

(3) A songwriting award (nomination) for "Wild Ones" - a large country-pop single (2x Platinum) this year that is already being discussed in several Grammy award songwriting and performance categories (to be announced next month in November).

(4) She has since co-written/produced virtually an entire major label album (female rapper Coi Leray's COI), receiving her first Billboard Top 10 single as a writer, as well as several songs with David Guetta that became hits in the European / Australian markets. Trainsskyscrapers (talk 15:32, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of oldest continuously inhabited cities

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This list has been a magnet for original research and edit warring for years. The basic problem is that we don't have good sources that treat the subject as a cohesive set, because while the "X is the oldest city in Y" is an attention-grabbing headline, it's not really a topic of serious scholarly interest. Instead, the list has been cobbled together from hundreds of sources that make claims about the age of individual cities. This is problematic because these sources don't have a consistent definition of—and rarely even discuss—what counts as a "city" or what it means to be "continuously inhabited". Non-academic sources also routinely repeat dubious dates without checking where they come from or confuse e.g. a prehistoric camp site being found within or adjacent to a village with that village being "10,000 years old", especially where there's a nationalistic angle (i.e. our oldest city is oldest than our neighbours).

I suggest deletion because I don't think this list is salvageable by changing the scope or sourcing requirements and in general we have moved on from these SYNTHy collections that were common in the early days. – Joe (talk) 10:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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delete: nominator makes a good case, nothing much to add. ... sawyer * he/they * talk 12:49, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I accept the nominator's points about the drawbacks of this list, but I do think a list of oldest cities is a reasonable thing for WP to provide. While people certainly do add OR to this article (constantly), that OR is removed when the additions cannot be sourced. Good academic sources exist on the history of all major settlements in the world today. The fact that bad sources also exist is no grounds for refusing to cover a topic. As for definitions of terms, "city" can't really be a problem, or we wouldn't have any lists of cities, while edge cases for "continuously inhabited" can be dealt with using the "notes" section of the list.

It certainly is a lot of work to maintain this list in the face of frequent additions of inappropriate content, but that isn't a justification for deletion. Furius (talk) 13:57, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good academic sources exist on the history of all major settlements in the world today – certainly, but these sources are not helpful, because of the consistency problems mentioned above. The definition of a city might not be an issue in lists of modern cities but in the past it is a lot hardy to define and the frequent subject of debate.[39] What we need are reliable sources that list and discuss "oldest cities" specifically per WP:LISTN. – Joe (talk) 14:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Latin Fresh

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I can't find any significant coverage from independent and reliable sources, not even in spanish

the topic of the article seems not to comply with WP:SINGER, not WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS to comply with WP:GNG Pitille02 (talk) 09:30, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hooman Daval

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This article creator is the same subject hence there is confirm WP:COI, also it doesn’t passes the notability guidelines, fails WP:GNG and was also previously deleted TheSlumPanda (talk) 09:40, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Delete: as nominator TheSlumPanda (talk) 09:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete: Promotional autobiography. Tagged under G11 since the article is eligible under this criterion. CycloneYoris ^talk! 10:22, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kafu Banton

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Killing of Nahida and Samar Anton

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Notability tag was challenged on the basis that there was sigcov - which is not really how notability for events works, every item of breaking news gets sigcov. There is no lasting and analytical coverage in this article to fulfill NEVENT. Every source in this article is from the week it happened. For an event to pass notability, it must receive analytical and continued coverage, of which this has neither, it's just "this thing happened", which is not encyclopedic. This has some passing mentions but no sigcov. WP:PRIMARYNEWS. PARAKANYAA (talk) 09:29, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Just in a brief search, I was able to find continued coverage in the following places: 1 2 3 4 5. There may be more, but I think this should be sufficient. Arguably this coverage is analytical since it focuses on the killing as part of the broader plight of Christians in Gaza. I think it is also too early to say definitively that coverage of this event has subsided. We aren't even past the 1 year anniversary of the event, and the war is still ongoing. It's not hard to imagine Pope Francis's use of the word terrorism being acknowledged in the context of his legacy, or this incident being used in some future international criminal proceeding. I'm not sure if the possibility of future notability is admissible as evidence right now, but I feel we should consider that the possibility of it receiving renewed coverage at some later date has not yet passed. Unbandito (talk) 18:53, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Those are passing mentions, except for the Atlantic piece, which cannot count as continued coverage as it was published only a month later. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:18, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Levon Tigranyants

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Ordinarily I would have wanted to draftify this as part of NPP but it is way outside the 90 day limit. Draftification is my preferred option unless anyone is able to show more sources. Mccapra (talk) 09:10, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Real-time Cmix

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I couldn't find good enough sources to add to show it meets WP:N. Boleyn (talk) 15:34, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alistair Forrester

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:24, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Arūnas Čiplys

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:21, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Pete Wilson (wrestler)

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No notable wrestler. Just worked on an independent level. The article has a few sources, non of them focusing on him, just WP:ROUTINE results. Looking for sources, he only has passing mentions on a few events. 1 . I don't understand how a 2006's version of the article was voted as keep. HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:27, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. None of the coverage in the article (databases and routine coverage of match results) or what I could find with a basic Google search (what's in the article & false positives) support notability. We need more for a BLP. Eluchil404 (talk) 03:57, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kyosuke Hashimoto

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Not good enough to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT for this player who spent 464 minutes in Japan's third league. Sources are WP:PRIMARY or WP:ROUTINE/WP:PASSING, especially those in the ja:wiki. Geschichte (talk) 05:01, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 08:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nobuhide Akiba

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Non-compliance with WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. No sources approaching independent and significant, including those in the ja:wiki. Geschichte (talk) 05:02, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jinyu Nasu

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Utter failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT, with his 190 minutes of play time in Japan's third league. No sources approaching independent and significant, including those in the ja:wiki. Geschichte (talk) 05:02, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keisuke Kumazawa

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Falls short of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT, his career lasting for 544 minutes. No sources approaching independent and significant, including those in the ja:wiki, which are primary or match reports. Creator is globally locked. Geschichte (talk) 05:04, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yoshiyuki Okumura

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Strong failure of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT, only played 8 games in the third league. No independent and significant sources, including those in ja:wiki. Creator is globally locked. Geschichte (talk) 05:06, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The current state of the article is misleading because he actually did play more than 8 matches, according to his bio on Japanese Wikipedia. But the sources cited there are soccer club websites, not secondary. A quick Google search (site:.jp) turns up mostly team rosters and transfer news. It's possible more sources exist as this was far from a thorough search, but at this point this looks highly unlikely to satisfy WP:BASIC, let alone WP:GNG. Cielquiparle (talk) 16:25, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tatsuki Noda

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Unfortunately fails of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 17 minutes in Japan's third league. The only source in ja:wiki to possibly rise above the usual primary and routine sources, [40], is also a transfer announcement containing three long quotes. Geschichte (talk) 05:08, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Harish S. Mehta

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Article is a WP:PROMO, fails WP:GNG, WP:BASIC and WP:BIO. WP:NOTRESUME. Charlie (talk) 04:43, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep:subject has significant coverage to meet WP:GNG, WP:BASIC and WP:BIO and the company, NASSCOM they founded is notable Tesleemah (talk) 05:22, 6 October 2024 (UTC) 05:56, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tesleemah At the moment, there are no reliable sources on Google News that covers him significantly, and independently. You are welcome to update the page and make it qualify as per WP:HEYMAN. But, please avoid using interviews or self-quotations. Charlie (talk) 07:45, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You could have updated the page if you agree it could be improved to meet WP:HEYMAN Tesleemah (talk) 07:57, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
With all due respect, you were not able to comprehend my statement. Charlie (talk) 13:56, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tesleemah, for good or ill, the burden falls on editors wanting to Keep the article to bring reliable sources to the article or to the AFD discussion. Just saying that good sources exist carries no weight at all if you don't provide evidence of what they are. Other editors are not responsible for finding evidence to support your argument. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:21, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright @Liz Tesleemah (talk) 03:29, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete fails WP:NBIO, there's no significant coverage about him or his life in the cited sources, most of them infact are about the organisation he founded. Ratnahastin (talk) 07:29, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. He co-founded NASSCOM (about which we have an article) with half a dozen or six dozen others. He wrote a book. The book was well received, and we have an article on it. He is apparently a somewhat-known name in India, anyway, but for the purposes of his article, he does not seem to pass GNG, as the coverage I've found tends to be either in-passing mentions or non-independent. The article itself is quite dreadful, as it happens, but it's not worth trying to repair his resumé at his current level of demonstrated notability. — JohnFromPinckney (talk / edits) 08:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How about a Redirect to NASSCOM? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:52, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz A redirect is usually the best option. It could point to either NASSCOM or the book he authored, The Maverick Effect, which recently met the Heyman Standard. Charlie (talk) 03:31, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mehazkim

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Based on the sourcing in this article, the organisation does not meet WP:NCORP. The Hebrew article isn’t any help in terms of additional sources that would show the topic is notable. There may be better sources in Hebrew that I can’t find, but if not I think this should be deleted, Mccapra (talk) 03:42, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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It's a recognized association in Israel (link here & here), It's also known for it's political activities (some English sources: 1, 2, 3). I don't think the article should be deleted, but I'll respect the community decision. אקסינו (talk) 07:00, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ava Kris Tyson

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A previous AfD last year decided that this article should be merged into MrBeast Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Tyson (2nd nomination), and was recreated this year by a user with only 54 edits total [41] While the misconduct allegations that have come out since that discussion have signficiantly enhanced the coverage of this individual, I still think that it should be deleted/redirected for a number of reasons. 1. This individual has basically only been covered in the context of coming out as transgender and misconduct allegations against them, which is entirely within the context of their relationship with MrBeast (WP:NOTINHERITED), and given that their relationship with MrBeast has ended it seems unlikely that they will get any followup coverage in the future. Both aspects are already adequately covered in the main MrBeast article. While this isn't technically a BLP1E, it's not exactly far off. 2. This article since its recreation has been a massive target for serious BLP-violating vandalism which continually comes back despite having been semi-protected numerous times over the last few months and seems unlikely to abate in the near future. Wikipedia has a duty of care towards BLP subjects and I do not think this page currently serves a useful purpose. Hemiauchenia (talk) 03:19, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For clarity I am fine with the article being merged as suggested by others below. Hemiauchenia (talk) 19:37, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge This is a difficult one to judge. It is very close to BLP1E. I don't know if any (official) charges were made against the subject? The reason I ask is that if there are criminal charges then this may drag on and result in further information being added. Obviously, WP:CRYSTAL applies as to what might happen in the future. For now, I think this is as close as you can get to BLP1E and the article should be merged to MrBeast. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knitsey (talk • contribs)

As far as I am aware, there are no criminal charges. Hemiauchenia (talk) 14:04, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Sorry for forgetting to sign, I sometimes forget when desktop editing)

I've had a look around for anything else about the subject and can't find anything other than the recent accusations against her. It should be noted, that not all American sources are available in the UK. Knitsey (talk) 14:15, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge? Probably? I was expecting this to be a keep but adding "-beast -mrbeast" to the Google searches returns only non-RS stuff. Some of it is people involved with Tyson having their say, which is fair enough, but most of it is cynical drama content and other worthless slop. However, I do have a warning: Merging this will not stop the disruption. It will only move it to the merged article. We may even get an increase in disruption as the content would be in a higher profile article. That said, if it should be merged then we can't let that stop us. --DanielRigal (talk) 14:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This articles content is basically already entirely covered at MrBeast#LGBT Issues (in the personal views section, where their gender transition is discussed) and MrBeast#Ava Kris Tyson (in the controversies section which covers the misconduct allegations), so I don't see how redirecting this article will realistically increase disruption if the content is already there. Hemiauchenia (talk) 15:26, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ava uses she/her. 82.3.200.164 (talk) 00:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Any content in the page is merged into the MrBeast page already, and in the scope of BLP, I don't think it's great, although the semi protection has worked, so not sure about the BLP section, but given it's not adding much value given most content is already in the MrBeast page, I think it could be deleted. Zippybonzo | talk | contribs (they/them) 19:53, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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New Republican People's Party

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There is no such thing as the “New Republican People’s Party”. The phrase was used a couple of times by the former leader, but the sources don’t support the claim that it was consistently applied or had any specific meaning. Yes the former leader changed some of the party’s political direction, and perhaps a few sentences from this article could be merged into Republican People's Party, but essentially this just isn’t a thing. The article is based on WP:SYNTH. Mccapra (talk) 03:05, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: this refers to the (Turkish: Yeni Cumhuriyet Halk Partisi), not any other nation. — Maile (talk)
Speedy keep: The naming can be discussed but it is obvious that there is a notable, coherent topic here with reliable sources. Side note: speedily kept on the Turkish Wikipedia [42] TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 22:03, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cuisine of Jamaica

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This article was redirected to Jamaican cuisine all the way back in 2008 [43] and remained as a redirect right up until 45 minutes ago today, where user @876made literally copypasted the entire redirected article over to here. This is a request to restore the page to its former redirect status. It's completely unnecessary to have two articles about the same thing. Sirocco745 (talk) 05:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Revert to redirect to Jamaican cuisine: this probably didn't even need to come to AfD, since this was just a cut-and-paste move in the first place and the redirect could have easily been restored. Since we're here, though, this can no longer be done unilaterally during the AfD discussion period. (For the record, since there was a longstanding redirect, speedy deletion under A10 would not apply here — potentially plausible redirects are ineligible for that criterion.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:28, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about that, I'm still getting used to the procedure for stuff like this. I chose AfD because I wasn't sure how to proceed, and I've seen the redirect consensus reached commonly enough here that I thought this would be a "walk in the park" discussion. Sirocco745 (talk) 07:11, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per above. Note that 876 was banned. I don't think anyone not banned wants this to be anything other than a redirect. McYeee (talk) 17:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bit.bio

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There does not appear to me to be any independent, reliable, in-depth coverage for this company, as required by WP:NCORP. I have conducted a search I believe to be extensive, though perhaps not comprehensive, and the results are as follows:

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Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Secondary?
All the citations already in the article seem to be pressers except the Forbes contributor and WP:TECHCRUNCH so skipping to: Reynolds, Matt (2021-12-20). "This Startup Is Making—and Programming—Human Cells". Wired. ISSN 1059-1028. Retrieved 2024-10-20.	–		– Maybe the first sentence of the penultimate paragraph, and the first two of the last, are both directly about the subject and not quotes.	Bit of a stretch to call those three secondary.
"Cambridge Company Bit Bio Presses Enter To The Software Of Life". The Healthcare Technology Report. 2020-06-23. Retrieved 2024-10-20.	Seems like WP:TRADES likely paraphrasing a presser to me	No idea how reliable	Skipped, quickfail on other criteria
Regalado, Antonio. "Here's why I am coining the term "embryo tech"". MIT Technology Review. Retrieved 2024-10-20.			Namecheck due to quoting founder, no actual coverage
Google didn't pick up these ones for me for some reason, but: Bawden, Tom (2020-10-22). "Scientists could make an organ from scratch within a decade after cracking human cell code". i. Retrieved 2024-10-20.			Seems like a routine rehash of PR material to me
Whipple, Tom (2020-10-27). "Bit.Bio: British firm cracks code for stem cells". The Times. Retrieved 2024-10-20.			Slightly better than the one from i but still routine coverage of the partnership announcement IMO	–
Knapton, Sarah (2022-05-21). "Scientists unlock code for stem cell transformation which could provide cure for Huntington's". The Daily Telegraph. ISSN 0307-1235. Retrieved 2024-10-20.	Again, this is 90% quotes

(No relevant results were found for Elpis BioMed)

There are, of course, hundreds of other press releases, but I've omitted those for brevity. Additionally, even if appropriate sources meeting NCORP are found for this subject, half of the paragraphs in § Origins are biomedical in nature, which makes the sourcing to press releases instead of actually reliable sources highly inappropriate, and I would advocate that the article be confined to draftspace on those grounds alone (or otherwise removed from indexing). The creator of the article is also a single purpose account, though they have denied a COI. It is possible that they are simply an overly enthusiastic new editor. Alpha3031 (t • c) 05:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alpha3031, just a brief note to say that there is abundant off-wiki evidence to indicate that the article creator here is a UPE linked to the company. That being the case, I wonder if you had considered the possibility of also referring the article on Bit.bio founder Mark Kotter to AfD as it is equally promotional and the work of the same UPE user? (I would do so myself but for unfamiliarity with the process of creating an AfD).

Further info on the background can be found at the relevant thread at COIN, here [44]. Kind regards, Axad12 (talk) 05:29, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see. I did skim that thread but I missed the part about off-wiki evidence. If that's the case then the paid-en-wp VRT queue may be able to do things that AfD does not normally do, like enforce AfC (or block the editor in question). However, I will make it a priority to conduct a BEFORE for that article as well. Alpha3031 (t • c) 05:38, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your note. My feeling is that the very easily accessible evidence is so compelling that referral to paid-en-wp should not really be necessary. The user is clearly a promo-only SPA with a disruptive editing pattern who has ignored several warnings. The transparent nature of the UPE should therefore be sufficient for the user to be site blocked.

Thank you for looking at the Mark Kotter article, much appreciated. If the two articles end up being deleted then hopefully that will put an end to the promo/SPA/COI activity around these subjects. Axad12 (talk) 05:51, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Very strong delete, as per nom. I'd also request that sanctions be implemented against the creator, who has been asked to declare their transparent UPE/COI status but has refused to do so, and has repeatedly removed COI etc templates from the articles they have created. Axad12 (talk) 05:37, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The coverage is either local or in trade publications which isn't sufficient to meet WP:CORP. SmartSE (talk) 18:14, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Beauxbatons

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This page has similar coverage and notability as other locations in the Harry Potter series, notably the Durmstrang academy as both locations have the same role in the series as schools in the triwizard tournament in the 4th harry potter book, which does not have its own article.

The references in the current article are currently two top 10 trivia lists from screenrant, an article written by JK Rowling herself about the school and other articles that talk about Beauxbatons along with other locations in the series with similar depth and focus.

Based on this with the WP:GNG guidelines I don't believe Beauxbatons has significant independent coverage to warrant its own article, and it should be merged with Places in Harry Potter with other locations in the series that have similar coverage. Mousymouse (talk) 04:49, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge makes sense to me, the best sources in the article aren’t actually about Beauxbatons exclusively, but about analysis of larger themes in the text, and I think the value of those citations could be preserved on the Places in Harry Potter page, or a section of another article dealing with analysis of themes around national identity and ethnicity in HP. penultimate_supper 🚀 (talk) 11:30, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy keep‎. Withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris ^talk! 06:59, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jessie Sunner

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Only a member of a political party, not elected to any legislative body, fails WP:NPOL TheSlumPanda (talk) 04:24, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per Peace Arch News, "PROJECTED: Newcomer Sunner set to take Surrey-Newton for NDP", Sunner passes WP:NPOL. Ornithoptera (talk) 04:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Speedy keep -- Confirmed as winner of tonight's election, meets NPOL. JTtheOG (talk) 05:52, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, now this article meets WP:NPOL TheSlumPanda (talk) 06:24, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Michael Afton

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IMO, this should be redirected, draftified, deleted, or failing all of those things, sourced. Unfortunately, the first two options will likely be reverted by the article creator. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 03:16, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect No notability at all. Fails WP:GNG. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect It's a valid search term but isn't notable non its own. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 15:20, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Five Nights at Freddy's - The current article is completely unsourced, and searches are not bringing up much in the way of non-plot coverage of the character. He is already discussed throughout the main FNAF series article, where his role in the plot throughout the various games is described, so a Redirect there would be appropriate. Rorshacma (talk) 16:40, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per the points of the others. Unsourced and has little to no content, with no indication of notability shown. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 17:07, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unnaiye Kadhalipen

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Fails Wikipedia:Notability (films). Most of the sources are relating to Anjali Nair's wedding and not the film itself. The rest are just passing mentions. Other than the first Kungumam source (which doesn't give much), every other source is a passing mention. The title is just a general way of stating I love you [45] [46]. The film had one unreliable Filmibeat source [47], which was about the marriage incident, which is listed as unreliable at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force#Generally_used_sources.

Add two reviews (preferably reliable if possible) or reliable sources. DareshMohan (talk) 02:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of Tamil films of 2010: as a standard alternative to deletion for released films with notable cast and coverage. Not opposed to keep if other users think coverage about production is sufficient. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:11, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Isabella Moore (soprano)

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Fails WP:GNG. Despite the competition wins, these haven't actually led to any significant work on the concert or opera stage. I could find no reviews of her performances or coverage in independent publications; although I did find media that had connections to the subject and could not be used towards notability because they lacked independence. Her profile in opera base (see https://www.operabase.com/isabella-moore-a2140410/en) which tracks all professional opera productions globally only has one credit, and it isn't even a professional production but a university production. She is involved with the Pegasus Opera Company, but that is only a semi-professional company that operates more like a community theatre organization that a standard opera house. It's productions don't even get tracked by opera base. I think this is possibly a case of WP:TOOSOON, but since she has been at it for over a decade without a significant professional resume she may never achieve notability. 4meter4 (talk) 02:48, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Alexeyevitch^(talk) 07:40, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kumaar

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Fails WP:NMUSICIAN. Looking at the listed films, I cannot see where he is mentioned on some and the others I do find him in are not supported by the sources used. A WP:BEFORE finds no significant coverage. There is also some FAKEREFerences used such as those for the awards. The one he apparently won does NOT show the award won, only lists his name as a nomination. CNMall41 (talk) 02:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep. He is the lyricist of many songs and found some articles (reliable like Gaana, some aren't) [48] [49] [50]. Add citation needed to the award in question. DareshMohan (talk) 02:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I cannot find a reference to support the award so a citation needed tag would not suffice. The other references are not reliable. The first is a redaction of what was posted on Instagram, the second is WP:NEWSORGINDIA, and the third is all quotes from the subject (it also shows a byline but posted by Odisha Diary Bureau which indicates it could be a paid placement - not assuming it is but not the strongest of sources). --CNMall41 (talk) 18:44, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kaoli Isshiki

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Fails WP:SIGCOV. No significant coverage in any of the sources. Two of the three cited sources don't even mention the subject, and the one source that does simply lists here as one of several singers in a chamber choir (she is one of four singers in the soprano section). 4meter4 (talk) 01:59, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Vishal Singh (politician)

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This is about an insignificant politician who is not elected to any state level, national level and even local level body. He is merely an officeholder in a government organisation. It fails WP:GNG and WP:NPOL. Adamantine123 (talk) 00:48, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: not elected to any legislative body, fails WP:NPOL TheSlumPanda (talk) 04:11, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep: Meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines for WP:NPOLITICIAN, as the subject holds a national-wide office, serving as the Chairman of the National Cooperative Consumers Federation of India (NCCF), the apex body for consumer cooperatives in India. The notability for politicians are not limited to holding legislative positions. WP:NPOL clearly states, "Politicians and judges who have held international, national, or (for countries with federal or similar systems of government) state/province–wide office, or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels.” National-wide office applies to his role at NCCF. The subject has held a few roles in other cooperative and government bodies in India, some of which are major, including being elected as a Director of NAFED[ref]. The page can be kept. --Vikasudayrajsharma (talk) 11:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The subject appears to lack notability, having held non-notable roles at organizations of limited prominence. Alternatively, consider a redirect, such as to the National Agricultural Cooperative Marketing Federation of India. Please see article hist for more information TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 15:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blake Alma (numismatist)

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Previously deleted as WP:Articles for deletion/Blake Alma (TV Host) and in the first nomination, and salted as Blake Alma. WP:REFBOMBED with unreliable sources, quotes, passing mentions, etc. with very little actual significant coverage cited.

(Not tagging for speedy deletion because it's been several years so things could plausibly have changed. But the refs here fail to convince me they have) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:21, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And let's titleblacklist .*blake.*alma once this is closed as delete so we can finally stop this campaign or whatever. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The article as provided demonstrates significant developments in Blake Alma's notability since the 2018 deletion. The sources cited, particularly WCPO (a major Cincinnati ABC affiliate), K-Love (a nationally syndicated radio network), and multiple Cincinnati Enquirer archive pieces, offer substantial, independent coverage that extends well beyond passing mentions or quotes.

These are not unreliable sources or self-promotion; they are established, reputable media outlets providing significant coverage of Alma's work and impact. The WCPO and Cincinnati Enquirer pieces offer in-depth reporting on Alma's activities and influence in the outdoor and conservation spheres.

This is not a case of WP:REFBOMBING. Each source included provides meaningful, substantial coverage. A thorough review of these sources, paying close attention to the depth of coverage and the independence of the reporting, is warranted.

The current body of coverage, coming from established and independent media outlets, meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. The subject has clearly gained significant attention since the previous AfD, justifying a reevaluation of his notability status. If there are specific concerns about any of the sources or their content, they should be addressed individually rather than dismissing the article outright. Delawaretallman (talk) 17:56, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the detailed breakdown...I totally agree! I put a lot of effort into this article and it's great to see someone else recognizing how Alma's profile has grown since the other deletion which I wasn't aware of until a live admin told me. Those sources really do show he's become noteworthy for this page. Thanks @Delawaretallman Coincollector4500 (talk) 18:06, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're most welcome. Upon further review, some of the data in media coverage seems slightly like a form WP:REFBOMBING however, if cleaned up you should be just fine. Just use the secondary and primary sources that are in-depth. @Coincollector4500 Good luck! Delawaretallman (talk) 18:11, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lastly, you quoted him on a religious statement from seemingly a personal social media account as the last source. I'd suggest you'd find that on a public account or another source. Looks like the K-Love article also quoted from that video so I suggest using that as the source. Delawaretallman (talk) 18:15, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2023 Lamar Lady Cardinals softball team

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NSEASONS. This is a run-of-the-mill college softball team that compiled a mediocre/poor 22–34 record, won no championships and did not advance to the playoffs or have other notable accomplishments. Lacks WP:SIGCOV in independent, reliable sources and is based instead on databases sources and/or routine press releases from non-independent, captive sources such as the school and conference websites. Cbl62 (talk) 00:07, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Softball-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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